Wei Shuo (韋說) | 24 Histories

Overview

Wei Shuo was a Grand Councillor and Historiographer.

PeriodFive Dynasties

IdentityHistorical · Male

Roles

Found in

Life and dates

Attested activity

AD 923 同光元年十一月
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 224
AD 926 丙子
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 34, passage 197
AD 923 同光元年十一月
Directly stated · New History of the Five Dynasties 5, passage 101
AD 926 唐同光四年
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passages 77-79
AD 926 天成元年
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 37, passage 6
AD 926 天成元年五月
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 22

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AD 926 to AD 927 天成初
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 71, passage 64
AD 926 天成初
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 85
AD 926 己卯
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passages 142, 145
AD 926 庚辰
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 155
AD 926 明宗即位
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 225
AD 926 甲申
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 171
AD 926 癸未
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 170

Family

Immediate relationships attested in the translated histories.

Parent of Wei Tao (韋濤)
son 子
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 37, passage 7
Parent of Wei Tao (韋濤)
son 子
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passages 179-180

Key source chapters

Career and standing

Grand Councilor 平章事
AD 923 同光元年十一月 · Appointed
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 224
Associate Grand Councillor 同中書門下平章事
AD 923 同光元年十一月 · Appointed
Directly stated · New History of the Five Dynasties 5, passage 101
Gate Chamberlain, Minister of Revenue, director of National History 門下侍郎兼戶部尚書、監修國史
Appointed
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 22
prefect of Xu 漵州刺史
AD 926 己卯 · Demoted to
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 145
Yizhou Registrar in Exile 夷州司戶參軍
AD 926 癸未 · Demoted to
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 170
minister of rites 禮部侍郎
AD 923 同光元年十一月 · Held
Directly stated · New History of the Five Dynasties 5, passage 101

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Chancellor 宰相
AD 926 己卯 · Held
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 145
chancellor 宰相
Held
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 34, passage 197
Grand Councillor 平章事
Held
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 22
Entered
AD 926 天成初 · Punished
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 85
long-exiled commoner of He 合州長流百姓
AD 926 甲申 · Long exile commoner · Entered
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 176
Sentenced
Exile · At He Prefecture 合州
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 37, passage 6
extra-status equal to regular 員外置同正員
AD 926 癸未 · Extra status equal regular
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 170
punished 得罪
AD 926 明宗即位 · Punished · Authority Emperor Mingzong of Later Tang (明宗)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 225
demotion and immediate dispatch by post 貶並馳驛發遣
AD 926 己卯 · Suffered · Authority Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 145
long exile as commoner 長流百姓
AD 926 甲申 · Suffered · Authority Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 176

Places and affiliations

Later Tang 唐
Relation Served
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 77
Polity Later Tang 後唐 · Relation Served
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 34, passage 197; Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passages 224-225
Polity Later Tang 後唐 · Relation Served
Strongly inferred · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 145
AD 926 己卯
At Xuzhou 漵州 · Relation Exiled to
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 145
AD 926 甲申
At Hezhou 合州 · Relation Exiled to
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 176
AD 926 癸未
At Yizhou 夷州 · Relation Exiled to
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 170

Works and attributed material

AD 926 唐同光四年
Speech · Speaker · Direct quotation
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 78

Events and relationships

Changed Wang Can name
Political · Accused · With Wang Can (王參) · Mode edict Speaker Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 146
Fell from power and was punished
AD 926 天成初 · Political · Subject · With Dou Luge (豆盧革)
Dated from the passage context · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 85
Had student Wang Song memorial against prior reform
AD 926 唐同光四年 · Political · Instigator · With Wang Song (王松)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 79
Improperly ranked Yuan Heng
Political · Accused · With Yuan Heng (元亨) · Mode edict Speaker Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passage 146
Met on military affairs
AD 926 丙子 · Court · Councilor
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 34, passage 197
Supported Guo Chongtao selection reform
AD 926 唐同光四年 · Political · Approver
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 77

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Relation Colleague councilor with · Person Zhao Guangyun (趙光允)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 58, passage 224
Relation Teacher of · Person Wang Song (王松)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 79

Assessments and attributes

Assessment betrayed late emperor trust; sold offices; formed factions · Mode edict Speaker Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passages 171-174
Assessment blamed selection reform on Guo Chongtao when asked by relatives and friends · Mode narrator-report
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 78
Assessment condemned for having student Wang Song reverse Guo Chongtao's selection reforms after his execution · Mode historian-judgment
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passages 79-80
Assessment seized neighbor well; corrupt and unfit chancellor · Mode edict Speaker Li Siyuan (李嗣源)
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 36, passages 146-153

Source notes

Historicity historical
Directly stated · Old History of the Five Dynasties 34, passage 197; Old History of the Five Dynasties 148, passage 77; New History of the Five Dynasties 5, passage 101

References in the histories

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Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 34Volume 34 Book of Later Tang 10: Zhuangzong Annals 8 · 1 passage

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丙子，樞密使李紹宏與宰相豆盧革、韋說會於中興殿之廊下，商議軍機，因奏：「魏王西征兵士將至，車駕且宜控汜水，以俟魏王。」 On bingzi Li Shaohong met Dou Luge and Wei Shuo in the Zhongxing corridor and said, "Jiji's western troops are near—the carriage should hold at Sishui to await him."

Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 36Volume 36 Book of Later Tang 12: Mingzong Annals 2 · 9 passages

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宰相豆盧革進位左僕射，韋說進位門下侍郎兼戶部尚書、監修國史，並依舊平章事。 Dou Luge became Left Vice Director; Wei Shuo became Gate Chamberlain, Revenue minister, and historiographer, both keeping Grand Councillor rank.

宰相豆盧革貶辰州刺史，韋說貶漵州刺史，仍令所在馳驛發遣，為諫議大夫蕭希甫疏奏故也。 Dou Lu Ge was demoted to Chen prefect and Wei Shuo to Xi—for Remonstrator Xiao Xifu's indictment—and both were ordered sent off at once.

製略曰：「革則縱田客以殺人，說則侵鄰家而奪井，選元亨之上第，改王參之本名。 An edict summarized: "Ge let tenants kill; Shuo seized a neighbor's well; they ranked Yuan Heng first and changed Wang Can's name.

庚辰，賜蕭希甫衣段二十匹、銀器五十兩，賞疏革、說之罪也。 On gengchen Xiao Xifu received twenty bolts of silk and fifty taels of silver—for exposing Ge and Shuo.

宰相鄭玨、任圜再見安重誨，求解革、說，請不復追行後命，又三上表救解，俱留中不報。 Zheng Jue and Ren Yuan again saw An Chonghui to free Ge and Shuo and stop the later orders; they memorialized three times—all held without reply.

癸未，詔辰州刺史豆盧革可責授費州司戶參軍，漵州刺史韋說可責授夷州司戶參軍，皆員外置同正員，仍令馳驛發遣。 On guiwei Dou Lu Ge of Chen was demoted to Fei registrar in exile and Wei Shuo of Xi to Yi registrar—extra-status equal to regular rank—and both sent off at once.

甲申，又詔曰：「責授費州司戶參軍豆盧革、夷州司戶參軍韋說等，自居台輔，累換歲華，負先皇倚注之恩，失大國燮調之理。 On jiashen another edict: "Dou Lu Ge of Fei and Wei Shuo of Yi, long at the councilor's bench, betrayed the late emperor's trust and failed the state's harmony.

革可陵州長流百姓，說可合州長流百姓，仍委逐處長知所在。 Ge was long exiled to Ling as commoner; Shuo to He as commoner; local authorities were to watch them.

升、濤即革、說之子也。 Sheng and Tao were Ge and Shuo's sons.

Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 37Volume 37 Book of Later Tang 13: Mingzong Annals 3 · 1 passage

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詔：「陵州、合州長流百姓豆盧革、韋說等，可並自長流後，縱逢恩赦，不在原宥之限。 An edict said: "The long-exiled Dou Luge and Wei Shuo of Ling and He are barred from ever benefiting from amnesty.

Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 58Volume 58 Book of Later Tang 34: Biographies 10: Zhao Guangfeng, Zheng Jue, Cui Xie, Li Qi, Xiao Qing · 3 passages

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同光元年十一月，光允與韋說並拜平章事。 In the eleventh month of the first year of Tongguang, Guangyun and Wei Yue were jointly appointed grand councilors.

初，豆盧革、韋說得罪，執政議命相，樞密使孔循意不欲河朔人居相位，任圜欲相李琪，而鄭玨素與琪不協，孔循亦惡琪，謂安重誨曰：「李琪非無藝學，但不廉耳。 When Doulu Ge and Wei Yue fell from power, the court debated a new chief minister. Kong Xun did not want a man from the region north of the Yellow River in the post. Ren Yuan favored Li Qi, but Zheng Jue had long been at odds with Qi and Kong Xun also disliked him. Kong told An Chonghui, "Li Qi is learned enough, but he is not honest.

及明宗即位，豆盧革、韋說得罪，任圜陳奏，請命琪為相，為孔循、鄭玨排沮，乃相崔協。 When Emperor Mingzong took the throne, Doulu Ge and Wei Yue were punished. Ren Yuan memorialized requesting that Qi be made chief minister, but Kong Xun and Zheng Jue obstructed the appointment, and Cui Xie was made chief minister instead.

Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 71Volume 71 Book of Later Tang 47: Biographies 23: Ma Yu, Si Kongting, Cao Tingyin, Xiao Xifu, Yao Zongzhi, Jia Fu, Ma Gao, Luo Guan, Chun Yuyan, Zhang Ge, Xu Ji, Zhou Xuanbao · 3 passages

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天成初，欲召為諫議，豆盧革、韋說沮之。 Early in the Tiancheng era he was to be recalled as remonstrating censor, but Dou Luge and Wei Shuo blocked the appointment.

其後革、說為安重誨所惡，希甫希旨，誣奏革縱田客殺人，而說與鄰人爭井，井有寶貨。 When Luge and Shuo later fell afoul of An Chonghui, Xifu curried favor with false charges that Luge had let tenant farmers commit murder and that Shuo had fought a neighbor over a treasure-filled well.

有司推勘井中，惟破釜而已，革、說卒皆貶死。 Officials searched the well and found only a broken pot; Luge and Shuo were demoted and died in exile.

Old History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 148Volume 148: Treatises 10 Selection of Officials · 2 passages

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郭崇韜疾惡太深，奏請厘革，豆盧革、韋說僶俛贊成。 Guo Chongtao's zeal against corruption ran too deep; he memorialized for reform, and Doulu Ge and Wei Yue bowed and approved.

或有親舊訊其事端者，韋說曰：「此郭漢子之意也。」 When relatives and friends asked about the matter, Wei Yue said, "This was that Guo fellow's idea."

New History of the Five Dynasties, Chapter 5Volume 5 Later Tang Annals 2: Zhuangzong 2 · 1 passage

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丁巳，尚書左丞趙光胤為中書侍郎，禮部侍郎韋說：同中書門下平章事。 On dingsi, Zhao Guangyin rose from left assistant in the Department of State Affairs to Vice Director of the Secretariat; Wei Yue, minister of rites, was named Associate Grand Councillor.